A one-night stand(up) with Rex Navarrete
September 1, 2002 | 12:00am
Three hours before his last free public show in Manila, Rex Navarretes voice is threatening to quit. He was up very early that morning to do an interview on NU107, and now, this.
"Im tired. Leave me alone, people!" he wails mockingly.
Since he arrived almost a month ago, fans have been hounding him, asking for autographs, the media have been trying to book interviews. And all the guy wants is some peace and quiet.
Too late, we tell him. Hes now reached rock-star status and he doesnt even have to wear a leather jacket or brood or trash a hotel room, but still everybody wants a piece of Rex Navarrete: This brown stand-up comic who verbalizes so well every single anomalous behavior that characterizes being Filipino.
In a country where laughing at our own cultural eccentricities and irrational behavior is a national pastime, Rex Navarrete is the unofficial spokesperson of every Filipino who ever had a Tito Boy in his life, the guy who, according to Rex, would watch Animal Planet and boast to his six-year-old niphyu that, hell, yeah, he once had as pulutan that animal and that and that, too; or a lola who would try to "corner his ass" to pray the rosary right now because "Jesus cannot hang around waiting for you"; or anyone who ever wondered why Batman was hanging around with that Boy Wonder Robin and why the boy liked going "down the Bat pole."
So you ask: Where does Rex get this shit? The same place we get our own shtick that we perform in the classroom, at the office, during inuman with friends. Its his experiences "real Rex moments," he calls them and our experiences, too.
Which is why Rex Navarrete connects with his audiences. He tells us some things weve known all along and he tells us things weve never noticed before. Except that he puts it much better: He knows how to make a funny sketch out of all these stereotypes and he is a performer. Yet he wouldnt do the too-easy stuff either. No dog-eating jokes he prefers the rhinoceros jokes.
At last Wednesdays "Rex Navarrete Returns" in the Food Choices of Greenebelt 3 (his second free, public performance sponsored by Ayala Center and Ace Saatchi and Saatchi there was supposed to be only one free show but Ayala people were barraged by requests after his first one), the unofficial count was a thousand people. On a weekday. Imagine that.
As soon as Rex took the mike, everybody already had a laugh lurking somewhere in his gut. Oh, this is gonna be sooooo worth the traffic later. In two minutes, Rex had warmed up his audience with his sketch of the typical Pinoy greeting of raising ones head and eyebrows. In five minutes, he had his audience by the balls. In 15 minutes, he could have crashed into anyones home for a month.
My favorite sketches from the show (and Rexs first album, "Badly Browned") were the ones that were sharp and satirical keen observations of the Filipino culture because they drove home the point so effortlessly. Yeah, hes making fun of you, but it gets you thinking and laughing too. You begin to wonder which colonizer screwed us up so badly as to make us the way we are. To use a famous quote: Was it the 300 years in the convent or the 50 years in Hollywood?
In the FOB (fresh off the boat) sketch, Rex says there were eight Filipino-Indios on the first ship that circumnavigated the globe. Can you imagine the kind of dialogue that went on? Whos gonna be the decision maker on that boat and say, Hey, Im gonna be the first one to step on what is now known as California. "Ignacio, come here. The captain wants one of us to get off the boat, but I dont wanna be the first FOB. I dont want that kind of presyur." When they finally got them off the boat, eight Filipino-Indios on the sand picture taking! You tell them theres picture taking, theyll move. Picture taking on the beach? You betcha.
He can easily shift from history to archeology: I have real proof that Filipinos once walked the earth like giants, like mammoths. Discovery Channel showed it only once. Filipinos walked the earth 40, 50 feet tall. You go to any Filipino house and look in the dining room and youll see on the walls the wooden fork and spoon. That was a real archaeological find for us right there.
Rexs 1997 "Badly Browned" album contains wonderful material, especially Mormon Boys and Lolas Rosary (the Tito Boy sketch is included in this album as well). There are others though, that I thought should have been more tightly edited for a sharper punchline (like Lolas Rosary, which should have ended with satans voice asking, "Lola, what do you think now?").
While he doesnt do headline spin in this album, he pointedly sends up the people who do.
Balitang K is the most horrible TV show Ive ever seen. "Ahhhh, dead body, look, close-up, close-up, can you see? Hes dead, look!!!" Man, its like the most exploitative show ever, like the parents of the dead are going, "Oooh, look, theres our son, wow, hes on TV. Hes dead."
And he wonders aloud the very first time someone craved for balut: Whatever gave Filipinos the urge to somehow get a craving for something like unborn duck? Whats the story behind that, man? Back in the day, "You know, Im craving for something ispisyal, something very unique, something unborn. How about a duck egg?
"I think we should just stop right there. Because in the future Filipino guys would be congregating in an alley and saying, "You know, Im craving for the placenta of a gazelle."
The sketches that got the biggest laughs at his Greenbelt 3 show were the ones that relied on the butchered "English karabaw" for reaction: the play on words, the puns. One of them is the oft-requested SBC Packers (a parody of LBC), a sketch that plays on accents and puns.
And then, theres Maritess vs. Superfriends, an eight-minute sketch that Rex has put a new spin on by having Maritess telling the story while she is already employed by another group of superheroes, the X-Men. Our Pinay domestic helper tearfully recounts her experience in the Hall of Justice. I thought the most sharp-witted line was: My visa just ran out two months ago. Im an illegal alien. But Superman is from Krypton, hes alien, hes here, he can stay here. I cant stay and Im from earth. Thats not fair. Thats not right. Because hes white, thats why.
Whether its irrational human behavior or irrational human invention, Rex uses it to make a story and drive home a point sometimes poignant, often brutal but always veiled in laughter.
But in this day and age, comedy can sometimes still be segregated. For every Chris Rock, there are still African-American comedians whose venues are filled by black audiences only. For every Margaret Cho, there are still comedians who play only for Asians. That was the difficult thing for Rex in the beginning. He was too exotic, they said. But he persevered and finally won the game his own way.
So, contrary to the title of his first album, Rex Navarrete is not Badly Browned, hes actually quite Well Done.
Excerpts:
The Philippine STAR: What was the appeal of comedy for you in the first place?
Its fun. I enjoy it a lot. My favorite people, good friends of mine, are comedians. Stand-up comedy doesnt need a lot of preparation and a lot of stage setup, its just a really short sound check, no costume changes, no makeup or whatever. Its just straight dialogue and you get to travel and meet lots of people.
Do you perform mostly on the West Coast?
All over the United States. Mostly to Filipino audiences but it can be mixed. Its always been like that.
Have you ever had a show that bombed?
Yeah, maybe early on in my career. I work on statistics. I think most of my shows are good. A good part of a show is good, nice part of it is great and some parts need work.
I read that one of your influences was Richard Pryor. Do you see parallels in the black experience and the Filipino experience in the US?
I dont see exact parallels, but I do see the same sort of origins, except for the slavery part, like cultural transition, being looked at as an outsider, a foreigner. Both cultures are pretty expressive. Theres a lot of heritage involved, lots of rhythm.
A lot of comedians have the same pop culture references
I hardly do pop culture references.
The Superfriends, Tamagotchi?
Oh yeah, the Superfriends will always be around but I always remember them as the superheroes I grew up with in the 70s and 80s. If I do pop culture references, then its gotta be a timeless piece. I cant be talking about some fad or fashion that expires fairly quick.
Dave Chapelle (a black comedian) has a different take on the Superfriends.
Yeah, whats his take?
That whenever theres a crisis, Superman would go to the nuclear power plant or Wonder Woman would fight the enemy and the Black Lightning (the black superhero) would be left behind to answer the phones.
(Laughs) Oh. Mine is Aquaman. (In Rexs act, Aquaman gets to stay behind when theres a crisis in, say, Nebraska, because theres no ocean there. He plays mahjong with Maritess instead.) Its great that we kinda ride on the same things. I wrote mine a long time ago, in 1997.
Have you retired Maritess vs. The Super friends?
Does it look like it? People here keep requesting me to do that one. I never do it in North America.
Why not?
Its long and its hard. But I found a way to redo it now. I just turned it into cartoon so I dont have to do it again. But look what happened, man. God, all they wanna hear is Maritess and SBC Packers. Please, leave me alone.
Maybe you should do something like Jerry Seinfelds "Im Telling you for the Last Time" to retire your material.
Theyll kill me. Theyre gonna shoot me in the parking lot.
Do you do one-liners like Seven Wright?
No. Unless I do puns. Its too much to remember, one liners. I cant remember them. I have a bad memory. Im like dyslexic or something. I write too much but I cant remember any of it.
Whats it like performing on stage?
Scary. Look at this (gesturing at the seats in Food Choices), every seat is gonna be filled here tonight. Its scary to do it. I really cant explain it, its like going into battle by myself.
Does your mind ever go blank on stage?
I wish it would so I wouldnt feel the pain and nervousness.
Have you ever been discriminated against in the US and do you use this as material?
If I have, its very slight and subtle. Like in terms of being a comic of color. They wont give you stage time. Theyre looking for something new, something perky, something white. In terms of alternative comedy, its all about the quirky, strange, odd white guy. Every now and then theyll have the strange, odd black guy, and then theyll go into women. After the women is the male comic of color.
What about Margaret Cho, shes Asian but she now has three albums out.
Yeah, shes filled a niche. A big part of her following is the gay male market. Theres not a whole lot of Asian American comics. Mine is Filipino and Asian, no matter if youre straight or gay.
Why did you decide to self-produce your albums?
Total control.
Which ones your favorite?
The latest one, "Bastos."
What is it about being Filipino that you find just absurd?
Maybe its the extreme of being Filipino. You can be so Catholic or Christian, but never forgive any of your friends or family. You bring it to your grave. Be buried with your money. A lot of hypocrisy in being Filipino, theres a lot of duality also. Lots of conflict.
Growing up in America, did you experience this conflict?
Yeah, being raised as a Filipino, trying to follow all the traditions and customs, and at the same time learning English and trying to be American as much as possible, which means being individualistic, independent and idealistic.
America is the worst place to bring up your children if you want them to stay Filipino. Dont bring them to a country that promotes independence and voicing ones opinion. That doesnt work in a Filipino house.
When you were starting as a comedian, did your family ever tell you to get a real job?
Yeah. I didnt tell them the first two years. They didnt want to know that I was doing comedy.
What did they think you were doing what?
Just traveling. It was none of their business yet. It was something I wanted to try out for myself for the first two or three years, to see if I could really do it, if I could get the hang of it.
How were those years like?
The first five years are horrible. I tell that to any young person who wants to be a comic. You might have a good gig here and there, but for every one gig thats great, you get 20 that suck because youre still finding your style and rhythm. Its painful and really hard. Ive performed hundreds and hundreds of times already and its still a process of getting better at it.
The writing part is one thing, the performance part is very different. A joke can look great on paper, but when you do it on stage, in front of people who pay money wow, youd better be good, youd better be doing your homework.
Did you have gigs that didnt pay much?
Yeah, gas money gigs. Ten US bucks.
Shit. Really?
(Laughs) Horrible, huh? You drive all the way from your house in San Francisco to maybe a gig in San Jose or Santa Cruz, which is like an hour-and-a-half away and all they give you is $10. Thats it man, thank you.
Didnt that make you feel like doing something else, maybe accounting?
Yeah, I did other stuff, I worked here and there. But I wanted to stick to this. The only thing I wanted to do in my life was be a writer and performer of stand-up comedy. Thats what Im designed to do right now. I mean, Im a pretty good shot, you can hire me as a bodyguard, I can play congas, but the best thing I can do has always been stand-up comedy for the last 15 years and counting.
When you were struggling as a comedian, werent you tempted to do what Pryor called "white-bread comedy"?
That was offered yes, its always been the model. But I knew in my gut that I shouldnt and also obviously to a lot of comics of color who were my colleagues Is this right? Are we supposed to do this?
What do you hate most about being a stand-up comic?
Just the nature of the business. The discrimination inside the business. That the fate of your career is in the hands of the very few untalented managers, booking agents out there, club owners and TV producers. Really untalented really, they dont know how to see talent. They see us and say, "I dont see how to book you. Youre too exotic, youre too dark, your material even though its in English white people dont get it so how can I get you work?" Thats what I faced in the beginning. And I just went on my own way. If your model doesnt work, then Im gonna find my own way. Im gonna perform for own communities, colleges, put out my own products, and theyll come. If I cant find my own audience, Ill let them find me. Ill put the word out, Ill keep doing the work and theyll find me. Its worked. It truly has. Its mind boggling to my colleagues. These guys are still fighting for stage time after five years, theyre like "I was in this one club and you gotta kiss ass and I do seven minutes and thats it. I dont get paid. I still have my day job."
And you have groupies now. Someone was telling me of people who go to all your shows in Manila.
Not groupies but people who really respect the work. Theyre nice people, theyre not weird.
Theyre not stalkers
Theyre not stalkers. The ones who like my stuff are people who genuinely love comedy. Im a comedy fan too. I just get to do it. Thats the only difference. Im so big a comedy fan that I get to do it.
What was the first stand-up act you saw live?
Gosh, when I was in middle school, junior high. I went to a comic book science fiction convention in San Francisco and I looked at the program. Hey, theres gonna be some guy telling jokes. At a comic book convention? So me and my best friend went to see him. Oh my God, it was just one guy his name is Rick Overton and he did a lot of scifi, comic-book stand-up comedy.
Thats a niche.
It was great. This guy did really well. I was just dying and dying. I couldnt believe it. Just one guy with a microphone destroying the room. Like putting Elmer Fudd in the movie Alien. (In Elmer Fudd voice) "Be very quiet, Im not an alien" (laughing).
Did you start to collect stand-up comedy albums after that?
Yeah, lots of Eddie Murphy, lots and lots of comedy.
I lost my Delirious and Raw copies. I think theyre collector items now.
You can still get them. Theyre coming out in DVD.
Sam Kinison has a DVD pack now.
He should have. If not, find the CDs. Those are worth collecting. I tried to collect as many as the old DVDs and CDs, theyre hard to find, even the vinyls. Its good research for me, it keeps me grounded. My stuff is nothing new, the only thing new is that a Filipino guy is doing it and hes been consistent in the last five years.
A lot of stand-up comedians become movie stars or TV talk show hosts. Do you want to take the same route?
Get big head? Dont talk to your fans anymore?
Is that what happens?
Thats evil. A lot of actors use stand-up comedy only as a stepping stone to become actors and superstars. Get that sitcom, that movie deal and they never return back to their roots. I find that really phony and disrespectful to stand-up comedy, which is an art and a craft in itself. Robin Williams is one of the few guys who come back to do it. And Drew Carrey
Steve Martin?
Hes a good host, so he still got that stand-up rhythm, but he doesnt hit the road like Chris Rock. When you come back to your roots, thats how you keep your chops up, thats how you stay sharp. Its about interacting with people face to face and not on camera.
Jerry Seinfeld quit his TV show to do stand-up.
Yeah, and what happened?
He just retired his material! That route isnt for you?
I dont know. It could go either way. I mean, Margaret Cho did it. She got an ABC sitcom, but she returned to stand-up. Shes one of the best ones around and shes a colleague of mine we worked way back in the beginning. Shes also from San Francisco.
Is there a big community of stand-up comedians there?
Its very tight, yeah. We all know each other. We keep contact and keep tabs on each other. The biggest one in our pond is Robin Williams. He made a lot of effort to come back to stand-up. He would take breaks and just pop into a club, "Can I do an hour?" Sure, Robin. No practice. People paid five bucks to get in, and "Oh my God, its Robin Williams." Its not his best show, hes just really working out the kinks in his material, like a workshop.
And the club owner doesnt have to pay him ten bucks.
For his show, you pay hundreds of bucks. He did an HBO special recently at Carneigie Hall.
Whats your ultimate dream venue?
I actually like to play here. Is it CCP?
Yeah. Thats about 1,800 seats. That would be great.
I would love to play there, just for the people (laughs) and the President.
Do you do a lot of social issues in your act?
I try to. Every project or every year, I try to write stuff that says something about whats going on and how people treat each other. The family stuff is there. But what I really wanna do is political commentary as much as I can. Otherwise, I just keep it mixed.
Can I run some topics by you? Whats the deal with Middle-East terrorists?
If they werent funded by western terrorists, they wouldnt be Middle-Eastern terrorists.
President Arroyo?
Reminds me of my auntie. Kinda scary. You know that auntie that always pushes you around when your mom isnt home? And you always listen to her: "Rex could you get this, Rex please get the groceries out of my car" (in a spinster aunt voice).
Erap?
Needs a lot of help.
Gay sex?
Hey, everyone has their own way, you know (laughs).
Lesbians?
I got lots of them as friends.
Do you use them as material?
Not really, I try to write from what I know. Maybe later, when Im mature enough.
Manila traffic.
Bumper cars that dont bump.
They did a survey once and found out that one of the top things people do when stuck in traffic is
Text?
Pick their nose?
Oh, yeah. You gotta keep it clean for the next layer of pollution. You dont want it to build up all at once. Thats why all the tinting on cars, so dont see your neighbor picking his nose and they wont see you. So were covered.
Porn movies?
Interesting. Good fun. Great fiction.
George W. Bush?
We have a dumb-ass president. Really, at least his dad was smart and evil. This ones just stupid and evil. Id rather deal with Satan than his assistant. A lot of Americans love him, you know, bomb the hell out of Afghanistan. Its a horrible world.
The Pope?
I dont know if I . Hmmm. I dont take him seriously or the Vatican. I have every right not to, I guess. Still a Christian and Catholic.
Jackie Mason makes fun of being Jewish, George Carlin of being Irish Catholic. What is it about religion
I dont know how religion can be so organized, like the Popes the president, hes basically the emperor of Christendom. Its strange to me. Ive seen him before, in Rome, went to mass.
Did you get to kiss his ring?
No, I just gave him a flying kiss.
Have you seen any of the local comedy acts and what do you think of the scene?
Yeah, about three years ago. Its such a gay-dominated market here. Thats why my being here is such a fluke. I hope theres enough room for different kinds of comedy. Gay comedy is pretty much it in Manila.
How would you describe your own comedy?
I like to keep it conscious but also flirty and cartoony. It can be a good combination. Im still trying to figure it out.
Is there anything you wouldnt turn into material?
I dont know. For some things, I would wait. You cant really touch subjects like death and tragedy. Give it some time. We can laugh about World War II now, well maybe not, some people are still alive. Lets talk about the War of 1812, how about the civil war in the United States? No survivors.
How long does it take you to write your material?
It depends. Could be as quick as a minute, right on the spot, or months and months. Like Maritess took me a long time. SBC took me longer. The version I do now for SBC is an offshoot of a version that I wrote and did once in 1991 or 1992, back when it was a comedy sketch with other comics.
Were you a class clown?
No, I was a class comedian.
Whats the difference?
Comedians never got busted, class clown always got busted.
Are there a lot of Filipino American comedians?
Not a lot. Theres only a few of us still working, some in San Francisco and LA. The other ones are still working out their careers. But I have to be what I have to be, Im not at that point where, hey, lets all join forces and become one big comedy tour. I have to do this by myself. Im the only one whos ever stepped outside the US to do comedy in Canada, Hawaii, Guam, and this time, really playing to everybody in Manila.
So you go to where Filipinos are. What about Saudi Arabia?
Maybe someday, if they want me.
Your coming here has generated a lot of interest in stand-up comedy. I heard theyre building a new comedy club.
Comfort Room. Yeah, no gay comedy. No making fun of the patrons, unless youre a heckler.
You dont do that?
No, its too easy and its hurtful. It damages people. People come to the show to be entertained, inspired, bothered (points to his head),but not assaulted. Thats not my style. But if they wanna do it and people love it, go for it.
Have you had walkouts?
Yeah. Thats cool, everyone has a personal choice. I dont take it personally. Theyre expecting a clown to do impressions, Im not that. Watch Jim Carrey. Hes very talented but not politically minded. I come from a different tradition.
Among the comedians now, who do you look up to?
Instead of saying names, maybe just the ones who matter. The ones to whom truth matters, the ones who do the painful stuff, the ones who always dont get a lot of support for their ideas an thoughts. For the most part, comics write what they preach and preach what they believe. The ones who are brave enough to say it and hopefully its funny. Otherwise youd be an activist, not a stand-up comic.
What are the painful stuff for you?
Maybe loss, racism, discrimination those are the stuff I like to write about. Racism is something that hasnt been taken care of.
Do you talk about your family or families in general?
I talk about families in general, or my family would get mad at me.
What are the most absurd things about Filipino Americans living in the US?
The illusion of inclusion, that theyve made it, that now theyre white. We left this third-world nation, we got a house, the kids are in school, we have cars, and thats it. Theres no more racism, no more discrimination, were on the map, people know who we are. When they dont, good, weve assimilated well enough. That still kinda bothers me. I want Filipinos have a big sense of who they are. Some people are deeply ashamed of being Filipinos. Thats why I do the stuff I do, some people dont like it. Hey, were in America now, lose the accent. Dont talk like that coz people will think we still sound like that. We do sound like that. People in the Philippines still sound like that.
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"Im tired. Leave me alone, people!" he wails mockingly.
Since he arrived almost a month ago, fans have been hounding him, asking for autographs, the media have been trying to book interviews. And all the guy wants is some peace and quiet.
Too late, we tell him. Hes now reached rock-star status and he doesnt even have to wear a leather jacket or brood or trash a hotel room, but still everybody wants a piece of Rex Navarrete: This brown stand-up comic who verbalizes so well every single anomalous behavior that characterizes being Filipino.
In a country where laughing at our own cultural eccentricities and irrational behavior is a national pastime, Rex Navarrete is the unofficial spokesperson of every Filipino who ever had a Tito Boy in his life, the guy who, according to Rex, would watch Animal Planet and boast to his six-year-old niphyu that, hell, yeah, he once had as pulutan that animal and that and that, too; or a lola who would try to "corner his ass" to pray the rosary right now because "Jesus cannot hang around waiting for you"; or anyone who ever wondered why Batman was hanging around with that Boy Wonder Robin and why the boy liked going "down the Bat pole."
So you ask: Where does Rex get this shit? The same place we get our own shtick that we perform in the classroom, at the office, during inuman with friends. Its his experiences "real Rex moments," he calls them and our experiences, too.
Which is why Rex Navarrete connects with his audiences. He tells us some things weve known all along and he tells us things weve never noticed before. Except that he puts it much better: He knows how to make a funny sketch out of all these stereotypes and he is a performer. Yet he wouldnt do the too-easy stuff either. No dog-eating jokes he prefers the rhinoceros jokes.
At last Wednesdays "Rex Navarrete Returns" in the Food Choices of Greenebelt 3 (his second free, public performance sponsored by Ayala Center and Ace Saatchi and Saatchi there was supposed to be only one free show but Ayala people were barraged by requests after his first one), the unofficial count was a thousand people. On a weekday. Imagine that.
As soon as Rex took the mike, everybody already had a laugh lurking somewhere in his gut. Oh, this is gonna be sooooo worth the traffic later. In two minutes, Rex had warmed up his audience with his sketch of the typical Pinoy greeting of raising ones head and eyebrows. In five minutes, he had his audience by the balls. In 15 minutes, he could have crashed into anyones home for a month.
My favorite sketches from the show (and Rexs first album, "Badly Browned") were the ones that were sharp and satirical keen observations of the Filipino culture because they drove home the point so effortlessly. Yeah, hes making fun of you, but it gets you thinking and laughing too. You begin to wonder which colonizer screwed us up so badly as to make us the way we are. To use a famous quote: Was it the 300 years in the convent or the 50 years in Hollywood?
In the FOB (fresh off the boat) sketch, Rex says there were eight Filipino-Indios on the first ship that circumnavigated the globe. Can you imagine the kind of dialogue that went on? Whos gonna be the decision maker on that boat and say, Hey, Im gonna be the first one to step on what is now known as California. "Ignacio, come here. The captain wants one of us to get off the boat, but I dont wanna be the first FOB. I dont want that kind of presyur." When they finally got them off the boat, eight Filipino-Indios on the sand picture taking! You tell them theres picture taking, theyll move. Picture taking on the beach? You betcha.
He can easily shift from history to archeology: I have real proof that Filipinos once walked the earth like giants, like mammoths. Discovery Channel showed it only once. Filipinos walked the earth 40, 50 feet tall. You go to any Filipino house and look in the dining room and youll see on the walls the wooden fork and spoon. That was a real archaeological find for us right there.
Rexs 1997 "Badly Browned" album contains wonderful material, especially Mormon Boys and Lolas Rosary (the Tito Boy sketch is included in this album as well). There are others though, that I thought should have been more tightly edited for a sharper punchline (like Lolas Rosary, which should have ended with satans voice asking, "Lola, what do you think now?").
While he doesnt do headline spin in this album, he pointedly sends up the people who do.
Balitang K is the most horrible TV show Ive ever seen. "Ahhhh, dead body, look, close-up, close-up, can you see? Hes dead, look!!!" Man, its like the most exploitative show ever, like the parents of the dead are going, "Oooh, look, theres our son, wow, hes on TV. Hes dead."
And he wonders aloud the very first time someone craved for balut: Whatever gave Filipinos the urge to somehow get a craving for something like unborn duck? Whats the story behind that, man? Back in the day, "You know, Im craving for something ispisyal, something very unique, something unborn. How about a duck egg?
"I think we should just stop right there. Because in the future Filipino guys would be congregating in an alley and saying, "You know, Im craving for the placenta of a gazelle."
The sketches that got the biggest laughs at his Greenbelt 3 show were the ones that relied on the butchered "English karabaw" for reaction: the play on words, the puns. One of them is the oft-requested SBC Packers (a parody of LBC), a sketch that plays on accents and puns.
And then, theres Maritess vs. Superfriends, an eight-minute sketch that Rex has put a new spin on by having Maritess telling the story while she is already employed by another group of superheroes, the X-Men. Our Pinay domestic helper tearfully recounts her experience in the Hall of Justice. I thought the most sharp-witted line was: My visa just ran out two months ago. Im an illegal alien. But Superman is from Krypton, hes alien, hes here, he can stay here. I cant stay and Im from earth. Thats not fair. Thats not right. Because hes white, thats why.
Whether its irrational human behavior or irrational human invention, Rex uses it to make a story and drive home a point sometimes poignant, often brutal but always veiled in laughter.
But in this day and age, comedy can sometimes still be segregated. For every Chris Rock, there are still African-American comedians whose venues are filled by black audiences only. For every Margaret Cho, there are still comedians who play only for Asians. That was the difficult thing for Rex in the beginning. He was too exotic, they said. But he persevered and finally won the game his own way.
So, contrary to the title of his first album, Rex Navarrete is not Badly Browned, hes actually quite Well Done.
Excerpts:
The Philippine STAR: What was the appeal of comedy for you in the first place?
Its fun. I enjoy it a lot. My favorite people, good friends of mine, are comedians. Stand-up comedy doesnt need a lot of preparation and a lot of stage setup, its just a really short sound check, no costume changes, no makeup or whatever. Its just straight dialogue and you get to travel and meet lots of people.
Do you perform mostly on the West Coast?
All over the United States. Mostly to Filipino audiences but it can be mixed. Its always been like that.
Have you ever had a show that bombed?
Yeah, maybe early on in my career. I work on statistics. I think most of my shows are good. A good part of a show is good, nice part of it is great and some parts need work.
I read that one of your influences was Richard Pryor. Do you see parallels in the black experience and the Filipino experience in the US?
I dont see exact parallels, but I do see the same sort of origins, except for the slavery part, like cultural transition, being looked at as an outsider, a foreigner. Both cultures are pretty expressive. Theres a lot of heritage involved, lots of rhythm.
A lot of comedians have the same pop culture references
I hardly do pop culture references.
The Superfriends, Tamagotchi?
Oh yeah, the Superfriends will always be around but I always remember them as the superheroes I grew up with in the 70s and 80s. If I do pop culture references, then its gotta be a timeless piece. I cant be talking about some fad or fashion that expires fairly quick.
Dave Chapelle (a black comedian) has a different take on the Superfriends.
Yeah, whats his take?
That whenever theres a crisis, Superman would go to the nuclear power plant or Wonder Woman would fight the enemy and the Black Lightning (the black superhero) would be left behind to answer the phones.
(Laughs) Oh. Mine is Aquaman. (In Rexs act, Aquaman gets to stay behind when theres a crisis in, say, Nebraska, because theres no ocean there. He plays mahjong with Maritess instead.) Its great that we kinda ride on the same things. I wrote mine a long time ago, in 1997.
Have you retired Maritess vs. The Super friends?
Does it look like it? People here keep requesting me to do that one. I never do it in North America.
Why not?
Its long and its hard. But I found a way to redo it now. I just turned it into cartoon so I dont have to do it again. But look what happened, man. God, all they wanna hear is Maritess and SBC Packers. Please, leave me alone.
Maybe you should do something like Jerry Seinfelds "Im Telling you for the Last Time" to retire your material.
Theyll kill me. Theyre gonna shoot me in the parking lot.
Do you do one-liners like Seven Wright?
No. Unless I do puns. Its too much to remember, one liners. I cant remember them. I have a bad memory. Im like dyslexic or something. I write too much but I cant remember any of it.
Whats it like performing on stage?
Scary. Look at this (gesturing at the seats in Food Choices), every seat is gonna be filled here tonight. Its scary to do it. I really cant explain it, its like going into battle by myself.
Does your mind ever go blank on stage?
I wish it would so I wouldnt feel the pain and nervousness.
Have you ever been discriminated against in the US and do you use this as material?
If I have, its very slight and subtle. Like in terms of being a comic of color. They wont give you stage time. Theyre looking for something new, something perky, something white. In terms of alternative comedy, its all about the quirky, strange, odd white guy. Every now and then theyll have the strange, odd black guy, and then theyll go into women. After the women is the male comic of color.
What about Margaret Cho, shes Asian but she now has three albums out.
Yeah, shes filled a niche. A big part of her following is the gay male market. Theres not a whole lot of Asian American comics. Mine is Filipino and Asian, no matter if youre straight or gay.
Why did you decide to self-produce your albums?
Total control.
Which ones your favorite?
The latest one, "Bastos."
What is it about being Filipino that you find just absurd?
Maybe its the extreme of being Filipino. You can be so Catholic or Christian, but never forgive any of your friends or family. You bring it to your grave. Be buried with your money. A lot of hypocrisy in being Filipino, theres a lot of duality also. Lots of conflict.
Growing up in America, did you experience this conflict?
Yeah, being raised as a Filipino, trying to follow all the traditions and customs, and at the same time learning English and trying to be American as much as possible, which means being individualistic, independent and idealistic.
America is the worst place to bring up your children if you want them to stay Filipino. Dont bring them to a country that promotes independence and voicing ones opinion. That doesnt work in a Filipino house.
When you were starting as a comedian, did your family ever tell you to get a real job?
Yeah. I didnt tell them the first two years. They didnt want to know that I was doing comedy.
What did they think you were doing what?
Just traveling. It was none of their business yet. It was something I wanted to try out for myself for the first two or three years, to see if I could really do it, if I could get the hang of it.
How were those years like?
The first five years are horrible. I tell that to any young person who wants to be a comic. You might have a good gig here and there, but for every one gig thats great, you get 20 that suck because youre still finding your style and rhythm. Its painful and really hard. Ive performed hundreds and hundreds of times already and its still a process of getting better at it.
The writing part is one thing, the performance part is very different. A joke can look great on paper, but when you do it on stage, in front of people who pay money wow, youd better be good, youd better be doing your homework.
Did you have gigs that didnt pay much?
Yeah, gas money gigs. Ten US bucks.
Shit. Really?
(Laughs) Horrible, huh? You drive all the way from your house in San Francisco to maybe a gig in San Jose or Santa Cruz, which is like an hour-and-a-half away and all they give you is $10. Thats it man, thank you.
Didnt that make you feel like doing something else, maybe accounting?
Yeah, I did other stuff, I worked here and there. But I wanted to stick to this. The only thing I wanted to do in my life was be a writer and performer of stand-up comedy. Thats what Im designed to do right now. I mean, Im a pretty good shot, you can hire me as a bodyguard, I can play congas, but the best thing I can do has always been stand-up comedy for the last 15 years and counting.
When you were struggling as a comedian, werent you tempted to do what Pryor called "white-bread comedy"?
That was offered yes, its always been the model. But I knew in my gut that I shouldnt and also obviously to a lot of comics of color who were my colleagues Is this right? Are we supposed to do this?
What do you hate most about being a stand-up comic?
Just the nature of the business. The discrimination inside the business. That the fate of your career is in the hands of the very few untalented managers, booking agents out there, club owners and TV producers. Really untalented really, they dont know how to see talent. They see us and say, "I dont see how to book you. Youre too exotic, youre too dark, your material even though its in English white people dont get it so how can I get you work?" Thats what I faced in the beginning. And I just went on my own way. If your model doesnt work, then Im gonna find my own way. Im gonna perform for own communities, colleges, put out my own products, and theyll come. If I cant find my own audience, Ill let them find me. Ill put the word out, Ill keep doing the work and theyll find me. Its worked. It truly has. Its mind boggling to my colleagues. These guys are still fighting for stage time after five years, theyre like "I was in this one club and you gotta kiss ass and I do seven minutes and thats it. I dont get paid. I still have my day job."
And you have groupies now. Someone was telling me of people who go to all your shows in Manila.
Not groupies but people who really respect the work. Theyre nice people, theyre not weird.
Theyre not stalkers
Theyre not stalkers. The ones who like my stuff are people who genuinely love comedy. Im a comedy fan too. I just get to do it. Thats the only difference. Im so big a comedy fan that I get to do it.
What was the first stand-up act you saw live?
Gosh, when I was in middle school, junior high. I went to a comic book science fiction convention in San Francisco and I looked at the program. Hey, theres gonna be some guy telling jokes. At a comic book convention? So me and my best friend went to see him. Oh my God, it was just one guy his name is Rick Overton and he did a lot of scifi, comic-book stand-up comedy.
Thats a niche.
It was great. This guy did really well. I was just dying and dying. I couldnt believe it. Just one guy with a microphone destroying the room. Like putting Elmer Fudd in the movie Alien. (In Elmer Fudd voice) "Be very quiet, Im not an alien" (laughing).
Did you start to collect stand-up comedy albums after that?
Yeah, lots of Eddie Murphy, lots and lots of comedy.
I lost my Delirious and Raw copies. I think theyre collector items now.
You can still get them. Theyre coming out in DVD.
Sam Kinison has a DVD pack now.
He should have. If not, find the CDs. Those are worth collecting. I tried to collect as many as the old DVDs and CDs, theyre hard to find, even the vinyls. Its good research for me, it keeps me grounded. My stuff is nothing new, the only thing new is that a Filipino guy is doing it and hes been consistent in the last five years.
A lot of stand-up comedians become movie stars or TV talk show hosts. Do you want to take the same route?
Get big head? Dont talk to your fans anymore?
Is that what happens?
Thats evil. A lot of actors use stand-up comedy only as a stepping stone to become actors and superstars. Get that sitcom, that movie deal and they never return back to their roots. I find that really phony and disrespectful to stand-up comedy, which is an art and a craft in itself. Robin Williams is one of the few guys who come back to do it. And Drew Carrey
Steve Martin?
Hes a good host, so he still got that stand-up rhythm, but he doesnt hit the road like Chris Rock. When you come back to your roots, thats how you keep your chops up, thats how you stay sharp. Its about interacting with people face to face and not on camera.
Jerry Seinfeld quit his TV show to do stand-up.
Yeah, and what happened?
He just retired his material! That route isnt for you?
I dont know. It could go either way. I mean, Margaret Cho did it. She got an ABC sitcom, but she returned to stand-up. Shes one of the best ones around and shes a colleague of mine we worked way back in the beginning. Shes also from San Francisco.
Is there a big community of stand-up comedians there?
Its very tight, yeah. We all know each other. We keep contact and keep tabs on each other. The biggest one in our pond is Robin Williams. He made a lot of effort to come back to stand-up. He would take breaks and just pop into a club, "Can I do an hour?" Sure, Robin. No practice. People paid five bucks to get in, and "Oh my God, its Robin Williams." Its not his best show, hes just really working out the kinks in his material, like a workshop.
And the club owner doesnt have to pay him ten bucks.
For his show, you pay hundreds of bucks. He did an HBO special recently at Carneigie Hall.
Whats your ultimate dream venue?
I actually like to play here. Is it CCP?
Yeah. Thats about 1,800 seats. That would be great.
I would love to play there, just for the people (laughs) and the President.
Do you do a lot of social issues in your act?
I try to. Every project or every year, I try to write stuff that says something about whats going on and how people treat each other. The family stuff is there. But what I really wanna do is political commentary as much as I can. Otherwise, I just keep it mixed.
Can I run some topics by you? Whats the deal with Middle-East terrorists?
If they werent funded by western terrorists, they wouldnt be Middle-Eastern terrorists.
President Arroyo?
Reminds me of my auntie. Kinda scary. You know that auntie that always pushes you around when your mom isnt home? And you always listen to her: "Rex could you get this, Rex please get the groceries out of my car" (in a spinster aunt voice).
Erap?
Needs a lot of help.
Gay sex?
Hey, everyone has their own way, you know (laughs).
Lesbians?
I got lots of them as friends.
Do you use them as material?
Not really, I try to write from what I know. Maybe later, when Im mature enough.
Manila traffic.
Bumper cars that dont bump.
They did a survey once and found out that one of the top things people do when stuck in traffic is
Text?
Pick their nose?
Oh, yeah. You gotta keep it clean for the next layer of pollution. You dont want it to build up all at once. Thats why all the tinting on cars, so dont see your neighbor picking his nose and they wont see you. So were covered.
Porn movies?
Interesting. Good fun. Great fiction.
George W. Bush?
We have a dumb-ass president. Really, at least his dad was smart and evil. This ones just stupid and evil. Id rather deal with Satan than his assistant. A lot of Americans love him, you know, bomb the hell out of Afghanistan. Its a horrible world.
The Pope?
I dont know if I . Hmmm. I dont take him seriously or the Vatican. I have every right not to, I guess. Still a Christian and Catholic.
Jackie Mason makes fun of being Jewish, George Carlin of being Irish Catholic. What is it about religion
I dont know how religion can be so organized, like the Popes the president, hes basically the emperor of Christendom. Its strange to me. Ive seen him before, in Rome, went to mass.
Did you get to kiss his ring?
No, I just gave him a flying kiss.
Have you seen any of the local comedy acts and what do you think of the scene?
Yeah, about three years ago. Its such a gay-dominated market here. Thats why my being here is such a fluke. I hope theres enough room for different kinds of comedy. Gay comedy is pretty much it in Manila.
How would you describe your own comedy?
I like to keep it conscious but also flirty and cartoony. It can be a good combination. Im still trying to figure it out.
Is there anything you wouldnt turn into material?
I dont know. For some things, I would wait. You cant really touch subjects like death and tragedy. Give it some time. We can laugh about World War II now, well maybe not, some people are still alive. Lets talk about the War of 1812, how about the civil war in the United States? No survivors.
How long does it take you to write your material?
It depends. Could be as quick as a minute, right on the spot, or months and months. Like Maritess took me a long time. SBC took me longer. The version I do now for SBC is an offshoot of a version that I wrote and did once in 1991 or 1992, back when it was a comedy sketch with other comics.
Were you a class clown?
No, I was a class comedian.
Whats the difference?
Comedians never got busted, class clown always got busted.
Are there a lot of Filipino American comedians?
Not a lot. Theres only a few of us still working, some in San Francisco and LA. The other ones are still working out their careers. But I have to be what I have to be, Im not at that point where, hey, lets all join forces and become one big comedy tour. I have to do this by myself. Im the only one whos ever stepped outside the US to do comedy in Canada, Hawaii, Guam, and this time, really playing to everybody in Manila.
So you go to where Filipinos are. What about Saudi Arabia?
Maybe someday, if they want me.
Your coming here has generated a lot of interest in stand-up comedy. I heard theyre building a new comedy club.
Comfort Room. Yeah, no gay comedy. No making fun of the patrons, unless youre a heckler.
You dont do that?
No, its too easy and its hurtful. It damages people. People come to the show to be entertained, inspired, bothered (points to his head),but not assaulted. Thats not my style. But if they wanna do it and people love it, go for it.
Have you had walkouts?
Yeah. Thats cool, everyone has a personal choice. I dont take it personally. Theyre expecting a clown to do impressions, Im not that. Watch Jim Carrey. Hes very talented but not politically minded. I come from a different tradition.
Among the comedians now, who do you look up to?
Instead of saying names, maybe just the ones who matter. The ones to whom truth matters, the ones who do the painful stuff, the ones who always dont get a lot of support for their ideas an thoughts. For the most part, comics write what they preach and preach what they believe. The ones who are brave enough to say it and hopefully its funny. Otherwise youd be an activist, not a stand-up comic.
What are the painful stuff for you?
Maybe loss, racism, discrimination those are the stuff I like to write about. Racism is something that hasnt been taken care of.
Do you talk about your family or families in general?
I talk about families in general, or my family would get mad at me.
What are the most absurd things about Filipino Americans living in the US?
The illusion of inclusion, that theyve made it, that now theyre white. We left this third-world nation, we got a house, the kids are in school, we have cars, and thats it. Theres no more racism, no more discrimination, were on the map, people know who we are. When they dont, good, weve assimilated well enough. That still kinda bothers me. I want Filipinos have a big sense of who they are. Some people are deeply ashamed of being Filipinos. Thats why I do the stuff I do, some people dont like it. Hey, were in America now, lose the accent. Dont talk like that coz people will think we still sound like that. We do sound like that. People in the Philippines still sound like that.
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